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	<title>Comments on: Vestax Spin Review : Part 1 &#8211; Unboxing and first impressions</title>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can do either. The Spin does not have a built-in amplifier for speakers so either your speakers have to be powered or if your speakers require an amplifier, you will need one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can do either. The Spin does not have a built-in amplifier for speakers so either your speakers have to be powered or if your speakers require an amplifier, you will need one.</p>
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		<title>By: Udo Winkler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Udo Winkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon my ignorance on this item...

I first saw this item at an Apple store.
Your reviews have been very helpful.
However;
Hook up questions,

I connect my Mac to the SPIN box. How do we get to hear the sound?
Connect to outside speaker source via the RCA plugs?
Or do I connect to an amplifier first and then to external speakers?
How about no amp and just amplified power speakers?

Thanks for your help?
Udo Winkler
Orange, Ca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon my ignorance on this item&#8230;</p>
<p>I first saw this item at an Apple store.<br />
Your reviews have been very helpful.<br />
However;<br />
Hook up questions,</p>
<p>I connect my Mac to the SPIN box. How do we get to hear the sound?<br />
Connect to outside speaker source via the RCA plugs?<br />
Or do I connect to an amplifier first and then to external speakers?<br />
How about no amp and just amplified power speakers?</p>
<p>Thanks for your help?<br />
Udo Winkler<br />
Orange, Ca</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 03:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DJ Girl: Good points...I&#039;ve also encountered the same things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DJ Girl: Good points&#8230;I&#8217;ve also encountered the same things.</p>
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		<title>By: dj girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 09:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love my Spin, bought it 3 weeks ago. The boxed controller was not functioning properly (was losing connection to the laptop and eventually stopped connecting altogether) so I had to return it for repair right away. Got a new one back and all is good now. Just a few notes:

1) the USB connection in the controller is in the back of unit making it impossible to butt it against the laptop. Would love to see this moved to the side.

2) if you happen to make EQ adjustments directly on your laptop using djay 3, it&#039;s good to remember that it overrides the controller functions. So when you go back to touch any of the EQ slides or gain on the controller, the settings jump in djay 3 to adjust to those of the controller, often resulting in dramatic changes in audio. So don&#039;t do it with a live track, only when pre-cueing.

Overall, Spin was money so well spent for an ex oldschool dj girl like me who always wanted one of those old-fashioned, massive mixer/2xturntable units but never had the space or money for it. I still have ways to go exploring all the functions &amp; abilities of Spin so I&#039;ve got lots of groovy nights ahead of me :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my Spin, bought it 3 weeks ago. The boxed controller was not functioning properly (was losing connection to the laptop and eventually stopped connecting altogether) so I had to return it for repair right away. Got a new one back and all is good now. Just a few notes:</p>
<p>1) the USB connection in the controller is in the back of unit making it impossible to butt it against the laptop. Would love to see this moved to the side.</p>
<p>2) if you happen to make EQ adjustments directly on your laptop using djay 3, it&#8217;s good to remember that it overrides the controller functions. So when you go back to touch any of the EQ slides or gain on the controller, the settings jump in djay 3 to adjust to those of the controller, often resulting in dramatic changes in audio. So don&#8217;t do it with a live track, only when pre-cueing.</p>
<p>Overall, Spin was money so well spent for an ex oldschool dj girl like me who always wanted one of those old-fashioned, massive mixer/2xturntable units but never had the space or money for it. I still have ways to go exploring all the functions &amp; abilities of Spin so I&#8217;ve got lots of groovy nights ahead of me <img src='http://www.keyofgrey.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: @DU2X</title>
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		<dc:creator>@DU2X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, just checked it out and it looks pretty good. Will definitely check it out when I move onto larger hardware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, just checked it out and it looks pretty good. Will definitely check it out when I move onto larger hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: DU2X</title>
		<link>http://www.keyofgrey.com/2009/11/vestax-spin-review-part-1-unboxing-and-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-5228</link>
		<dc:creator>DU2X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mannik: Ableton and Serato just teamed up and annouced a new application called &quot;The Bridge&quot; which is basically a fusion of Live and Scratch/Itch.  Definitely worth checking out if you&#039;re looking for a djing solution with Ableton. 
http://www.ableton.com/thebridge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mannik: Ableton and Serato just teamed up and annouced a new application called &#8220;The Bridge&#8221; which is basically a fusion of Live and Scratch/Itch.  Definitely worth checking out if you&#8217;re looking for a djing solution with Ableton.<br />
<a href="http://www.ableton.com/thebridge" rel="nofollow">http://www.ableton.com/thebridge</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mannik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mannik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for the help, exactly what I needed to know. Might go for the VCI-100. Ableton is a great program but if you are not the producer or don&#039;t have the midi tracks then its difficult to be creative on the go. Maybe in a couple of years time Ableton will develop cue points and then will be a great DJing solution.

Thanks again,
Mannik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for the help, exactly what I needed to know. Might go for the VCI-100. Ableton is a great program but if you are not the producer or don&#8217;t have the midi tracks then its difficult to be creative on the go. Maybe in a couple of years time Ableton will develop cue points and then will be a great DJing solution.</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Mannik</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mannik: Thanks for stopping by! I&#039;m not too familiar with the Reloop Digital Jockey 2, as I don&#039;t think it&#039;s sold in North America. That being said, it seems to be quite a bit more expensive compared to the American pricing for the Vestax Spin and the VCI-100. However, since the Spin is not sold in Europe currently, I&#039;m not sure what it&#039;s price would be there.

The good thing about the Reloop though, is that it has a built in soundcard, just like the Spin. This makes it a lot easier to deal with than the VCI-100 which requires a separate soundcard. However, having a separate soundcard allows you to have more choices, and you could get something nice like NI&#039;s Audio4Dj which sounds a lot better than many built-in soundcards.

One thing to consider is that Vestax is releasing a special version of the Spin for Traktor (right now the Spin comes bundled with a Mac-only dj program called &quot;djay&quot;) called the Typhoon. It&#039;s pretty ugly though, since they&#039;ve basically applied a tacky carbon fibre sticker on the front and painted the faders red. It&#039;s the exactly same as the Spin but sold with a lite version of Traktor.

After playing with the Spin for a couple months, I can say that it&#039;s a lot of fun and having the jog wheel is more tactile than using something like an APC40 to DJ. That being said, I&#039;m not gigging with it, and if I was, I&#039;d probably spend more money to have a more rugged device. The VCI-100 is much sturdier, and would likely be what I would get in the Spin&#039;s place. I would also either get an Echo or NI soundcard to supplement it.

It really depends on how much money you have to spend as DJ controllers can get pretty pricey. You might also want to consider the VCI-300 which comes with Serato&#039;s Itch, or even something like the new Numark N7 which has a real piece of vinyl and slipmats. 

Lately, I&#039;ve been building up a turntable set up with control vinyl. I&#039;m interested in the Ms Pinky system, plugged into Ableton Live using Max. You can scratch clips which is pretty much what I&#039;ve always wanted to do. Hope that helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mannik: Thanks for stopping by! I&#8217;m not too familiar with the Reloop Digital Jockey 2, as I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s sold in North America. That being said, it seems to be quite a bit more expensive compared to the American pricing for the Vestax Spin and the VCI-100. However, since the Spin is not sold in Europe currently, I&#8217;m not sure what it&#8217;s price would be there.</p>
<p>The good thing about the Reloop though, is that it has a built in soundcard, just like the Spin. This makes it a lot easier to deal with than the VCI-100 which requires a separate soundcard. However, having a separate soundcard allows you to have more choices, and you could get something nice like NI&#8217;s Audio4Dj which sounds a lot better than many built-in soundcards.</p>
<p>One thing to consider is that Vestax is releasing a special version of the Spin for Traktor (right now the Spin comes bundled with a Mac-only dj program called &#8220;djay&#8221;) called the Typhoon. It&#8217;s pretty ugly though, since they&#8217;ve basically applied a tacky carbon fibre sticker on the front and painted the faders red. It&#8217;s the exactly same as the Spin but sold with a lite version of Traktor.</p>
<p>After playing with the Spin for a couple months, I can say that it&#8217;s a lot of fun and having the jog wheel is more tactile than using something like an APC40 to DJ. That being said, I&#8217;m not gigging with it, and if I was, I&#8217;d probably spend more money to have a more rugged device. The VCI-100 is much sturdier, and would likely be what I would get in the Spin&#8217;s place. I would also either get an Echo or NI soundcard to supplement it.</p>
<p>It really depends on how much money you have to spend as DJ controllers can get pretty pricey. You might also want to consider the VCI-300 which comes with Serato&#8217;s Itch, or even something like the new Numark N7 which has a real piece of vinyl and slipmats. </p>
<p>Lately, I&#8217;ve been building up a turntable set up with control vinyl. I&#8217;m interested in the Ms Pinky system, plugged into Ableton Live using Max. You can scratch clips which is pretty much what I&#8217;ve always wanted to do. Hope that helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Mannik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mannik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, thanks for writing this review. I am fairly new to DJing, i have previously been using ableton Live for about 6 months without a controller. I want to make the move onto some hardware and didn&#039;t really like the apc40. I cannot decide between the Vestax spin with maybe traktor or the reloop digital jockey 2 interface edition or maybe even the VCI-100.

I can&#039;t find much information on the reloop but it looks to me the best product. There seems to be many VCI-100 fans around.
Could you shed some light on this please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, thanks for writing this review. I am fairly new to DJing, i have previously been using ableton Live for about 6 months without a controller. I want to make the move onto some hardware and didn&#8217;t really like the apc40. I cannot decide between the Vestax spin with maybe traktor or the reloop digital jockey 2 interface edition or maybe even the VCI-100.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find much information on the reloop but it looks to me the best product. There seems to be many VCI-100 fans around.<br />
Could you shed some light on this please?</p>
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		<title>By: DU2X</title>
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		<dc:creator>DU2X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jared: Its been said time and time again in many different ways that its not about what you use but how you use it.  Wearing Jordans won&#039;t make you a better basketball player, likewise using professional gear can&#039;t always make you sound more professional.  I don&#039;t mean to sound rude, I just wanted to make sure that was clear first.  If you&#039;re starting out I would wait to buy gear until you&#039;ve learned/gained more experience in making beats. This will save you time/money in the long run.

That said, since a lot of electrionic music is programmed and many software vendors have demos, I would play around with demos first.

However, I get curious about the types of gear musicians use too, here are some deadmau5 clips that might help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPeUM3Fqx6w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cRt9QeItEg

There are tons of threads dedicated to gear discussion for various artists that a quick google search would yield.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jared: Its been said time and time again in many different ways that its not about what you use but how you use it.  Wearing Jordans won&#8217;t make you a better basketball player, likewise using professional gear can&#8217;t always make you sound more professional.  I don&#8217;t mean to sound rude, I just wanted to make sure that was clear first.  If you&#8217;re starting out I would wait to buy gear until you&#8217;ve learned/gained more experience in making beats. This will save you time/money in the long run.</p>
<p>That said, since a lot of electrionic music is programmed and many software vendors have demos, I would play around with demos first.</p>
<p>However, I get curious about the types of gear musicians use too, here are some deadmau5 clips that might help:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPeUM3Fqx6w" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPeUM3Fqx6w</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cRt9QeItEg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cRt9QeItEg</a></p>
<p>There are tons of threads dedicated to gear discussion for various artists that a quick google search would yield.</p>
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